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Author:  old man [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:06 am ]
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about the green stains on my cherry wood. I had a lot of green stains on my first guitar (which did sand out) made from curly cherry. Well, today I bent another set of cherry sides and this time I used Kraft paper and distilled water (stainless slats), and guess what? I got green stains anyway. This time, though, I studied the sides very closely and the stains are coming from some tiny pores (mineral deposits?) in the cherry. You could see the green coming out. Cherry must store some kind of copper compound that is dissolved by the water and heat. I'm sure it'll sand out again, but I'm sure I found the source of my stains.
Thought you might like to know.

Ron old man38881.7137384259
Author:  burbank [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:14 am ]
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So Ron, I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks! (from one old dog to another)

Thanks for the info. burbank38881.7186342593
Author:  old man [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:34 am ]
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Yep, I guess I'm not too old to learn. Pat, how long have you lived in Spokane? Beautiful country up there. My wife and I were there once, in 1974 for the world's fair.

Ron
Author:  Billy T [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:46 am ]
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Electrolyte...distilled water, ionic tranfer between disimilar metals - that could be it Watson!
Author:  burbank [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:55 am ]
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Ron,

Yes, it's pretty nice. I lived in the San Franciso Bay area for a long time and I miss some parts of the city life, but not the pace, traffic, crowding, crime or cost of real estate (doesn't leave much, does it?). Settled up here with my new bride in '93.

In Spokane, I can be in the boonies in a matter of minutes plus my commute is almost a drive in the country. I do like the country around here and I get to hear the wind whispering in the pines in my backyard.
Author:  old man [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:10 pm ]
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Pat, I've probably mentioned this before, but reading your profile I see the B & W photography. Dabbled in it for about 100 years but I was really heavy into that throughout the 80's. Mostly landscape and some "architecture" stuff, mostly old dilappidated structures. I had a 4x5 Wista and a "no-name" 8x10. I kinda tired of it in the 90's and when we built a new home in 2000, I didn't rebuild my darkroom and had to finally sell my equipment to get my last son through college. I was in one national exhibit up in Coos Bay, Oregon. The highlight, for me, though, was attending a two week workshop in Carmel with John Sexton and Ansel Adams.

I've always had more interests than I could afford.
I really miss photography.

Ron
Author:  burbank [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:40 pm ]
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Ron,
This is great. I was really involved with B&W photography beginning in the mid-80s after falling head over heels for my B&W photo instructor. Later got a...... Wista 4 x 5! Was most interested in..... you guessed it, landscapes and dilapidated buildings. Never did get to attend any workshops, but I would have given my right arm to have attended one with those two masters. My wife, (whom I met not long after) and I spent a year in Japan. I had a great time with scenics there with my bathroom darkroom -- shades of Hesh!. In the last few years sold most of my equipment except the Hasselblad and basic darkroom stuff. Made my last print shortly before I got bitten by this guitar building bug. Besides, the good papers had disappeared and now the films are getting scarce too. Sad.

Do you have any of your stuff online?burbank38881.9878819444
Author:  old man [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:59 pm ]
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At one point I had a nice exhibit online, but it's been several years. If you google me, you find several references to it, but it's not there anymore. I no longer have a scanner to put any up either.
I'm afraid the great old methods will disappear with the coming of digital. All I have left are boxes of prints and negatives, and my library.
That Wista was the finest made, most beautiful camera in the world. (would have worked great photographing my guitars.) (This keeps it on topic.)

I also notice we are nearly the same age. I was born in March of '48.

Do you have any prints online?

Ronold man38882.0075231481
Author:  burbank [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:17 pm ]
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Ron,

Yeah, those Wistas were really fine. I do like the Hasselblad too, very well made, but in a different way. No wood!

No, nothing online except guitar stuff that's already been linked to from the OLF (on-topic!).

Maybe I'll get the scanner up and running again!
Author:  CarltonM [ Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:21 pm ]
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Ron, thanks for the info re: cherry.

I'm gonna miss film, too. It's surprising that digital took over so quickly, considering that it's gonna take, what, 20 megapixels to equal a 35mm snapshot, let alone the larger formats.
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